• About
    • Posting
    • Media Mentions
    • Desiderata
  • History
    • Vandercook Timeline
    • Vandercook Employee Roster
      • Employee Photos
    • Vandercook Dealers
    • Centenary Gallery
      • Bundle Participants
    • Genealogy
  • Literature
    • Book
    • Articles
      • A Short History of Vandercook
      • The Vandercook Archive
      • The Vandercook in Context
      • Common Vandercook Operator Errors
      • Edition Printing on the Cylinder Proof Press
      • Adjusting Cylinder Carriage Bearings …
      • Cleanliness Will Cut the Costs
      • Lock-Up
    • Vandercook Patents
    • Bibliography
  • Tables
    • Model Index
    • Quick Specs
    • Features
    • Serial Numbers
    • Press Inspectors
  • Maintenance
    • Workshops
    • Presses for Sale
      • Links
    • Glossary
  • Census
    • Vandercook Gravity Press Census
  • Other Brands
    • Other Brands Censuses
      • Asbern Census
      • Canuck Census
      • Challenge Census
        • Challenge Patents
      • Hacker Census
        • Hacker Patents
      • FAG Census
      • Korrex Census
      • Potter Census
      • Reprex Census
      • Western Census
  • Contact
« SP 15 Ink Drum
Comment Images Made Easy »

No. 1 Proof Press Cylinder Undercut / Registration

Posted November 10, 2009 by Paul Sinclair   1,503 views    6 Comments    Print Print   

I have a No. 1 proof press, serial # 6327 that I picked up a while ago to print woodblock and linocuts on, plus I would love to do some small edition work, as I learn. Two questions-
In reading through some posts and books, I see the impression cylinder has an under-cut. How do I determine what the undercut is? I looked on the cylinder bearer and bed bearer, but saw nothing.
The second question pertains to registration (I have looked at the posts regarding this), but in using a frisket, secured to the bed bearer holes, won’t the frame get stopped by the ink tray? Is there another way to accomplish this, that I have missed?
Any help is greatly appreciated. My book on General Printing should be arriving soon, so maybe these and more questions will be answered.

Post Details

    Post Title: No. 1 Proof Press Cylinder Undercut / Registration
    Author: Paul Sinclair
    Filed As: Frisket, Impression Cylinder, No. 1
    Tags:


    You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.
« SP 15 Ink Drum
Comment Images Made Easy »

6 comments have been posted on “No. 1 Proof Press Cylinder Undercut / Registration”.

  1. Paul Sinclair commented:
    November 11, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    Agghhh…obviously I am thinking about this way to hard :). This makes total sense, either thru upside down thumb tacks, or press points (to double as a nasty weapon too).

  2. Paul Moxon, Moderator commented:
    November 11, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    An even simpler solution may be to use press points.

    Rummonds mentions them in Printing on the Iron Handpress and on his website: http://www.letterspace.com/handpress/printing.htm

    Gerald Lange shows an image of press points on his blog at:
    http://bielerpressvii.blogspot.com/2007/08/press-points.html

  3. kyle van horn commented:
    November 11, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    As for registration – while I understand the desire for a frisket, I don’t think they’re really necessary.

    You could utilize a simple pin-registration system like we use for silkscreen.

    http://www.ternesburton.com sells a metal registration pin which could be easily mounted to a piece of furniture at one end of the press. Holes punched in your paper (a simple 3-hole punch is perfect for this) will ensure that every sheet falls in the same place.

    For proof of concept, or just to be frugal, you could do what Jim Sherraden of Hatch does on HIS No. 1, which is a couple of thumbtacks glued to furniture, point up. As long as the point stays below type-high, you can punch your first sheet into place on your first print, and then use those holes for alignment on all successive colors.

    Good luck!

  4. Paul Moxon, Moderator commented:
    November 11, 2009 at 7:28 am

    Yes, .040″ and .070″ is are accurate. Often the number is hidden by grime, try cleaning with a wire brush.

  5. Paul Sinclair commented:
    November 11, 2009 at 6:13 am

    Paul-
    Thanks, I see where you’re talking about. No undercut stamp on mine that’s for sure. I was told that on a No.1, This particular model came in two undercut depths, 7/100 and 4/100 of an inch. I don’t know if this is in fact accurate, but there is a depth-change on the cylinder. I guess I can pick up a micrometer to verify.

  6. Paul Moxon, Moderator commented:
    November 10, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    With cylinder at feed board, you’ll find the undercut measurement stamped into the narrow oil channel separating the cylinder face from the cylinder bearers on the operator’s side. 040 K is most common.

    The earliest Vandercooks don’t have a stamped undercut, and I’m not sure when it became standard to include it. The serial number table dates your press to 1935.

Leave a Reply Cancel reply

You must be logged in to post a comment.

Connect

  • Register
  • Log in
  • Comments RSS

Archives

Donate

Categories

17 & 25 (Comp room cylinders) 219 OS 320/325 2009 Centennial Accessories Advertising Bearings Blogging Buying & Moving Challenge Cylinder gears/racks Drawsheet & Packing Equipment Fabrication Form rollers/gears For Sale General Gravity (0, 01, 03, 099) Grippers Hacker History Impression Cylinder Ink drum Inking System Lockup Bar Lubrication Manuals Motors Moving No. 1 No. 3 No. 4 & 215 Oscillator/Worm Gear Other Brands People Potter Power Carriage Press Bed Print/Trip Lever Reprex Restoration SP series Universal series Value/Price Wanted

Tags

"form rollers" "Universal I" "Universal III" Advertising belt pulley Centenary cores Cylinder dd-vandercook extension block Form rollers/gears for sale fr-vandercook Fritz Klinke John Horn lock-up bar Lubrication Moving MR-110 No. 1 oil packing press for sale print/trip proofs Reprex flat bed riders sp-15 sp15 sp20 speed reducer string stripping Switches Towson undercut universal II vandercook vandercook 4 Vandercook SP15 Wanted Wash-up worm worm gear

Archives

  • May 2012
  • April 2012
  • March 2012
  • February 2012
  • January 2012
  • December 2011
  • November 2011
  • October 2011
  • September 2011
  • August 2011
  • July 2011
  • June 2011
© 2012 Vanderblog | Entries (RSS) | WordPress and Tweaker2