4T front metal rider roller loud squeaking and uneven inking

Hello!

I just purchased my first Vandercook (4T) and all seems well except the front rider roller is very loud, and the side away from the operator doesn’t ink evenly at all. I can’t figure out from the manual if these rider rollers should have Nyliners on them?

Attached a video to show the sound and inking. Thank you!

 

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Paul Moxon, Moderator
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5 months ago

Great! But don’t wait too long to deal with the clutch pins and plate.

Paul Moxon, Moderator
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6 months ago

The tie rods were made from cold-drawn steel, as CDS noted in the drawings. Surprising, isn’t it, that the rods wear and not the wood bushings? That’s how durable lignum vitae is. It’s no wonder it was widely used in machinery back in the day. However, after decades, they can slip inward and crack, usually at the outside diameter. I have been able to extract many bushings intact, which I’ve presented to the customer as a souvenir. 

Ernst Schaefer
6 months ago

i just did the very same today with a set of the inking system i got with a poor looking lathe. the rods are totally worn out and i will make new ones. wondering what kind of rod steel to use? of course i had to remove all 4 taper pins. surprisingly the steel rods are worn and the wood bushing is still round and centered and holds the tolerance.

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Paul Moxon, Moderator
Admin
6 months ago

Before disassembly the top frame, try appyling a dab of Vaseline with a stip of cardstock to the tie rod between the rider and the handle.

To disassemble the the frame:

  • Place the assembly on the bed and remove the oscillator tube. 
  • Flip the frame onto a table and knock out one taper pin on each side diagonally, using a loosening punch struck with a 3lb. sledgehammer. (Removing just two pins preserves the orientation of the tapered holes in the tie rods.) Continue with a straight removal punch.
  • Separate the frame by tapping against the inside of the handles, then remove the riders.
  • Use a tie rod to smash the old wood bushings and pour out the broken pieces.
  • Clean the handles and polish the riders.
  • New tie rods can be fabricated from the originals. 
  • Insert the beveled end of new F-761 Delrin bushings into the tubes and tap with a mallet.
  • Reinsert tie rods and taper pins into the handles.

The original taper pins can be filed if not too malformed. New #1 one inch taper pins may be found in a hardware store but the small end will protrude and need to be ground down after install. Hollow roll pins can be substituted if the pathway is no longer aligned.

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Paul Moxon, Moderator
Admin
6 months ago

Congratulations on acquiring your press. The No. 4 has framed form rollers, so the roller height must be adjusted in small increments front and back on each side. Keeping the gap between the bearing bars and the frame handles even. Cleaning the assembly will make a difference. The rubber form roller diameter should be 2.5”. 

The riders have bushings on each end. Original F-761 bushings are made of wood (lignum vitae). Replacements are made of Delrin and are available from NA Graphics. Bushings can slip inward into the hollow of the rider, and the inside diameter can also be worn. 

The end of the tie rod on which the rider and bushings turn could be bent, and the outside diameter where the bushing turns can also be worn. New MR-113 tie rods can be made by a machinist, who would turn the rod stock and drill and ream to fit the handles.

I also hear clicking of the MR-108 clutch block and the MR-111 gear which should not be in contact when the carriage is at the feed board. This is caused by worn MR-110 clutch pins or a worn MB-104 clutch plate. New clutch pins are available from NA Graphics. A clutch plate can be brazed by a local machinist or exchanged for one through me. 

Please send me your serial number, name and location for the census.

Last edited 6 months ago by Paul Moxon, Moderator





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